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= E8 M - Follow discussion and disagreement =

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'''Mini-Beschreibung:''' Follow a short discussion with different positions. Recognise '''agreement''', '''disagreement''' and '''reasons'''. Then join in with your own clear, polite opinion.

'''Level:''' Klasse 8, Englisch als erste Fremdsprache, Baden-Württemberg, M-Niveau.

'''Sprachmodus:''' English first → context → try → ask → hint → German help if needed. Keine Vollübersetzung.

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= Medien-Einstieg =

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'''Look first. Don't translate.'''

What may the students be discussing? Who seems to be listening? Who may agree or disagree?

'''Try:''' Say two short sentences:
# ''I think they are discussing ...''
# ''Maybe one student disagrees because ...''

'''Hint:''' Watch faces, hands and eye contact.

'''Deutsch-Hilfe:''' ''to agree'' = zustimmen, ''to disagree'' = widersprechen, ''reason'' = Grund.

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= I can ... =

After this aiMOOC, you can say:

# '''I can follow''' the main points in a short informal discussion.
# '''I can notice''' agreement, disagreement and reasons.
# '''I can ask''' for a reason or clarification.
# '''I can disagree politely''' and explain why.
# '''I can report''' what another person said or asked.
# '''I can use''' the passive in a short school-related statement.
# '''I can check''' whether my English is understandable and accurate.

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= Vorwissen aktivieren =

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'''Quick choice:''' Which phrases do you already know?

# ''I agree.''
# ''Exactly.''
# ''I'm not sure about that.''
# ''I see your point, but ...''
# ''Why do you think that?''
# ''That's a good point.''

'''Try first:''' Sort them in your head into '''agreement''', '''disagreement''' and '''asking for reasons'''.

'''Hint:''' A phrase can sound polite even when the speaker says no.

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= Listening and Viewing 1 =

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'''First watch: main idea only.''' Do not stop after every sentence.

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'''Task A – first viewing:''' What is the main purpose of the conversation?

A: The speakers are trying to win an argument.<br>
B: The speakers compare ideas and react to each other.<br>
C: The speakers tell a story about the past.

'''Task B – second viewing:''' Listen for three kinds of language:
# agreement
# disagreement
# reasons or explanations

'''Try:''' Write down only keywords, not full sentences.

'''Ask yourself:''' Did the speaker reject the person or only the idea?

'''Hint:''' Listen for phrases such as ''I see what you mean'', ''I'm not so sure'' and ''I think you're right''.

'''Deutsch-Hilfe:''' Achte auf Signalwörter und Tonfall. Du musst nicht jedes Wort verstehen.

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= Reading: A school-festival discussion =

'''Context:''' Four fictional students are planning one activity for the school festival. No real profiles or private data are used.

'''Mia:''' We need one activity that lots of students can join. I think a quiz challenge would work best because it is cheap and easy to organise.

'''Jay:''' I see your point, but a photo booth would be more fun. People could take a picture with their friends and keep it as a memory.

'''Leila:''' I'm not completely convinced. A photo booth can be fun, but not everyone wants to be photographed. We would need a clear choice.

'''Noah:''' That's true. What if we make a small photo corner and a quiz? Then students can choose.

'''Mia:''' Maybe, but we only have forty minutes to set everything up. Two activities might be too much.

'''Jay:''' Fair point. Still, the photo corner doesn't need much equipment. A background can be made from cardboard, and the photos can be taken on the school tablet.

'''Leila:''' Only if nothing is uploaded. The pictures should stay private and should be deleted after they are printed.

'''Noah:''' I agree with that. The rules can be explained at the start.

'''Mia:''' Okay, I'm changing my mind a little. I still prefer the quiz, but I could support a simple photo corner too.

'''Jay:''' Great. So we agree on a quiz as the main activity and an optional photo corner?

'''Leila:''' Yes, as long as students choose freely and no pictures are shared online.

'''Noah:''' Then we've got a compromise.

'''Try first:''' Who changes their position? Who gives a privacy reason? Who suggests the compromise?

'''Hint:''' Follow the movement of the discussion, not single words.

'''Deutsch-Hilfe:''' ''as long as'' = sofern; ''optional'' = freiwillig; ''compromise'' = Kompromiss.

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= Follow the discussion =

{| class="wikitable"
! Speaker
! Position
! Reaction
! Reason
|-
| Mia
| prefers the quiz
| partly changes her mind
| cheap, easy, limited set-up time
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| Jay
| likes the photo booth
| accepts limits
| fun, memorable, little equipment
|-
| Leila
| is cautious
| partly agrees
| choice and privacy matter
|-
| Noah
| combines ideas
| seeks common ground
| both activities may work
|}

'''Key skill:''' You do not need every word. Track three things: '''position → reaction → reason'''.

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= Kontextwortschatz =

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{| class="wikitable"
! Function
! Useful English
! Short help
|-
| Agree
| I agree. / Exactly. / That's a good point.
| Zustimmung
|-
| Partly agree
| I see your point, but ... / That's true, but ...
| teilweise zustimmen
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| Disagree
| I'm not sure about that. / I don't think so.
| höflich widersprechen
|-
| Give a reason
| because ... / The main reason is ...
| begründen
|-
| Ask for a reason
| Why do you think that? / What makes you say that?
| nachfragen
|-
| Compromise
| What if we ...? / Could we combine both ideas?
| Lösung suchen
|}

'''Mini-try:''' Complete orally: ''I see your point, but ... because ...''

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= Aussprache und Verständlichkeit =

'''Goal:''' Be easy to understand. Accent-free English is not the target.

Say these chunks as groups, not word by word:

# ''I SEE your point, but ...''
# ''I'm NOT so sure about that.''
# ''That's a GOOD point.''
# ''WHY do you think that?''
# ''The MAIN reason is ...''

'''Try:''' Tap the stressed word with your finger while speaking.

'''Hint:''' Stress the important meaning words. Small words can be shorter.

'''Deutsch-Hilfe:''' Verständlichkeit vor Akzentfreiheit. Sprich in Sinnabschnitten.

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= Listening and Viewing 2 =

'''Listen for tone and politeness.'''

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'''Viewing task:''' Find one direct way and one softer way to disagree.

'''Try:''' Which sounds better in a class discussion? Explain in one English sentence.

'''Hint:''' Tone of voice changes how direct language feels.

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= Speaking: join the discussion =

'''Situation:''' Your class can add one new activity to a project day.

Choose one:
# a sports challenge
# a creative workshop
# a mini game tournament

Speak for about '''60–90 seconds''' with a partner.

Use this route:

'''Position → reaction → reason → question → compromise'''

Example frame:

''I think ... would be useful because ...''<br>
''I see your point, but ...''<br>
''What makes you say that?''<br>
''Could we combine both ideas?''

'''Challenge:''' Use at least one partial agreement before you disagree.

'''Recording:''' Recording is optional. Keep recordings private. Do not upload them unless your teacher has explicitly organised a safe school system and you choose to take part.

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= Reading strategy: signal words =

In a discussion, small words show direction.

{| class="wikitable"
! Signal
! What it often tells you
|-
| because
| a reason follows
|-
| but
| a contrast or disagreement follows
|-
| so
| a result or conclusion follows
|-
| still
| the speaker keeps part of an earlier position
|-
| as long as
| a condition follows
|-
| then
| a next step or conclusion follows
|}

'''Try:''' Read only the sentences around ''but'', ''because'' and ''as long as'' in the festival discussion. Can you still follow the main disagreement?

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= Functional grammar =

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== Passive: useful in school discussions ==

At M-level, use the passive when the action or rule matters more than the person.

'''Active:''' ''Students take the photos on the school tablet.''<br>
'''Passive:''' ''The photos are taken on the school tablet.''

'''Active:''' ''We explain the rules at the start.''<br>
'''Passive:''' ''The rules are explained at the start.''

'''Try:''' Change this sentence: ''We delete the pictures after printing.''

'''Answer check:''' ''The pictures are deleted after printing.''

'''Error watch:''' Do not forget '''be + past participle'''.

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== Reported speech: backshift, questions and commands ==

Use reported speech to tell someone what was said.

'''Statement:''' Mia said, ''"The quiz is cheaper."'' → Mia said that the quiz '''was''' cheaper.

'''Question:''' Jay asked, ''"Do we need a photo booth?"'' → Jay asked '''whether''' they needed a photo booth.

'''Command:''' Leila said, ''"Don't upload the pictures."'' → Leila told them '''not to upload''' the pictures.

'''Try:''' Report Noah's question: ''"Could we combine both ideas?"''

'''Possible answer:''' Noah asked whether they could combine both ideas.

'''Hint:''' In reported questions, do not use question word order.

'''Deutsch-Hilfe:''' Indirekte Rede: Aussage zurückversetzen; Frage ohne Fragewortstellung; Aufforderung oft mit ''told + object + to''.

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= Writing =

Write a short discussion summary of about '''90–120 words'''.

Include:
# the topic
# two different positions
# at least two reasons
# one moment of agreement or partial agreement
# the final compromise or result

Use at least:
# one passive sentence
# one reported statement or question

'''Start if needed:''' ''The group discussed ... Mia said that ... Jay disagreed because ... In the end ...''

'''Do not copy the full model.''' Use it only as support.

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= Mediation =

Your German-speaking partner says:

''Ich finde die Fotoecke okay, aber nur freiwillig. Niemand sollte Bilder hochladen müssen.''

Explain the key idea in English to a fictional exchange student. Do not translate word for word.

'''Try:''' ''She thinks ... but ...''

'''Hint:''' Keep the meaning, not the German sentence structure.

'''Possible version:''' ''She is fine with the photo corner if it is optional, and she says nobody should have to upload pictures.''

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= Gestufte Hilfen =

'''Level 1 – Try:''' Speak or write without help for 30 seconds.

'''Level 2 – Ask:''' What is your position? What is your reason? What did the other person say?

'''Level 3 – Hint:''' Use: ''I agree because ... / I see your point, but ... / What if we ...?''

'''Level 4 – German help:''' Erst Position erkennen, dann Reaktion, dann Grund. Nutze kurze englische Bausteine statt vollständiger Übersetzung.

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= Direktes Feedback =

After speaking or writing, check:

{| class="wikitable"
! Check
! Yes / Not yet
|-
| I made my position clear.
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|-
| I reacted to another idea.
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| I gave a reason.
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| I stayed polite when disagreeing.
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| My English was understandable.
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|-
| I checked one grammar point.
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|}

'''Feedback sentence:''' ''Your reason is clear. Next, add one phrase that reacts directly to the other speaker.''

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= Fehleranalyse =

Find and improve the problem.

# ''I am agree with Mia.'' → '''I agree with Mia.'''
# ''I don't agree because is too expensive.'' → '''I don't agree because it is too expensive.'''
# ''She asked did we need two activities.'' → '''She asked whether we needed two activities.'''
# ''The rules explained at the start.'' → '''The rules are explained at the start.'''
# ''He said that the photo booth is better.'' → In a past report: '''He said that the photo booth was better.'''

'''Try:''' Explain which error is about vocabulary, sentence structure or grammar.

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= KI sinnvoll nutzen =

AI can help you '''check''' a draft, but it should not replace your own speaking or writing.

# Write your own first version.
# Ask for one specific check, for example: ''Are my reasons clear?''
# Check AI suggestions for level, facts and grammar.
# Keep only changes you understand.
# Never enter private social-media data, real personal profiles or confidential recordings.
# Do not upload recordings or personal files to external AI services without explicit school permission and your own informed choice.

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= Transfer =

'''New situation:''' Your class is choosing between a digital poster and a short live presentation for an English project.

Work in groups of three or four.

Round 1: Each person gives one position and one reason.<br>
Round 2: React to another speaker.<br>
Round 3: Ask one follow-up question.<br>
Round 4: Find a compromise.

'''M-level challenge:''' At the end, one student reports the group's discussion using reported speech.

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= Can-do-Check =

Rate yourself: '''Yes / Mostly / Not yet'''.

# I can follow who agrees and who disagrees.
# I can identify at least one reason for each position.
# I can use a polite disagreement phrase.
# I can ask a follow-up question.
# I can explain a compromise.
# I can form a passive sentence.
# I can report a statement, question or command.
# I can improve one error after feedback.

'''Next step:''' If you chose ''Not yet'' twice or more, repeat Listening 1 with keywords only and use the Level 3 hints.

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= Folgekurs =

Continue with [[E8 M - Take part in a discussion|E8 M - Take part in a discussion]].

Focus next on longer turns, stronger reasons, follow-up questions and a short group presentation.

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= Interaktive Aufgaben =

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== Quiz: Teste Dein Wissen ==

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'''What does "I see your point, but ..." usually signal?'''
(Partial agreement followed by a different view)
(!Complete agreement with no change)
(!A new topic with no connection)
(!A command to stop speaking)

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'''Which phrase asks for a reason?'''
(Why do you think that?)
(!I totally agree.)
(!That's a good point.)
(!I'm not convinced.)

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'''Which word often introduces a reason?'''
(because)
(!but)
(!still)
(!then)

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'''What is the main compromise in the festival discussion?'''
(A quiz with an optional simple photo corner)
(!Only a large photo booth)
(!No activity at all)
(!Two compulsory photo sessions)

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'''Which sentence is a polite disagreement?'''
(I'm not sure about that.)
(!You are completely wrong.)
(!Stop talking now.)
(!That idea is stupid.)

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'''Which passive sentence is correct?'''
(The rules are explained at the start.)
(!The rules explain at the start.)
(!The rules are explain at the start.)
(!The rules explained are at the start.)

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'''Which reported sentence is correct?'''
(Mia said that the quiz was cheaper.)
(!Mia said that is the quiz cheaper.)
(!Mia said was the quiz cheaper.)
(!Mia said that the quiz cheaper was.)

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'''How do you report the question "Do we need two activities?"'''
(He asked whether they needed two activities.)
(!He asked did they need two activities.)
(!He asked whether did they need two activities.)
(!He asked they needed two activities?)

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'''What should you focus on first when listening to a discussion?'''
(Main positions, reactions and reasons)
(!Every single unknown word)
(!Perfect spelling of all names)
(!Translating every sentence into German)

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'''What is a good goal for pronunciation at this level?'''
(Being clear and understandable)
(!Sounding exactly like one native speaker)
(!Removing every regional accent)
(!Speaking as fast as possible)

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== Memory ==

<div class="memo-quiz">
{|
|-
| agreement || I agree.
|-
| partial agreement || I see your point, but ...
|-
| disagreement || I'm not sure about that.
|-
| reason || because
|-
| question || Why do you think that?
|-
| compromise || What if we combine both ideas?
|}
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== Drag and Drop ==

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{| class="wikitable"
! Ordne die richtigen Begriffe zu.
! Thema
|-
| '''Agreement'''
| I think you're right.
|-
| '''Disagreement'''
| I'm not so sure.
|-
| '''Reason'''
| The main reason is that it is cheaper.
|-
| '''Follow-up question'''
| What makes you say that?
|-
| '''Compromise'''
| Could we combine both ideas?

|}
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== Kreuzworträtsel ==

<div class="kreuzwort-quiz">
{|
|-
| agreement || What is the noun for saying that another idea is right?
|-
| disagreement || What is the noun for having a different opinion?
|-
| reason || What do you give to explain why you think something?
|-
| because || Which word often introduces a reason?
|-
| however || Which linking word can introduce a contrast?
|-
| compromise || What do we call a solution in which both sides accept changes?
|}
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== LearningApps ==

<iframe> https://learningapps.org/index.php?s=E8+M+Follow+discussion+and+disagreement </iframe>

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== Lückentext ==

<quiz display=simple>
{'''Vervollständige den Text.'''<br>
|type="{}"}
In a discussion, first identify each speaker's { position }. A phrase such as "I see your point, but ..." often shows { partial agreement }. The word "because" often introduces a { reason }. If you need more information, ask a { follow-up question }. A polite disagreement can help the group continue the { discussion }. In the passive, the action is often more important than the { person }. In reported speech, a yes-no question can be introduced with { whether }. At the end, the group may find a { compromise }.
</quiz>

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= Offene Aufgaben =

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=== Leicht ===
# [[Agreement phrases|Agreement phrase cards]]: Create six small cards with phrases for agreement, partial agreement and disagreement.
# [[Listening notes|Keyword listening]]: Watch the first video again and write only five keywords that help you follow the discussion.
# [[Reason chain|Reason chain]]: Write three opinions about school activities and add one clear reason to each.
# [[Pronunciation practice|Chunk practice]]: Practise four discussion phrases in sense groups and mark the stressed word.

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=== Standard ===
# [[Mini discussion|Mini discussion]]: Discuss two possible class activities for two minutes and reach a compromise.
# [[Reported speech|Discussion report]]: Write six sentences reporting what the fictional speakers said, asked or told others to do.
# [[Passive voice|Rules poster]]: Create a short English rules poster using at least four passive sentences.
# [[Mediation|Mediation task]]: Explain a short German opinion to an English-speaking fictional partner without translating word for word.

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=== Schwer ===
# [[Discussion moderator|Moderate a discussion]]: Lead a four-person discussion and make sure each speaker gives a reason and reacts to another idea.
# [[Error analysis|Error clinic]]: Collect six invented learner errors about discussion language and explain how to improve them.
# [[Video reflection|Private speaking reflection]]: Record a voluntary private 90-second response, review clarity and accuracy, then delete it if you no longer need it.
# [[Transfer presentation|Group result presentation]]: Present your group's final compromise in about two minutes and report at least two earlier positions.

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= Lernkontrolle =

# [[Discussion map|Map the argument]]: Read a new short discussion and show how each position, reaction and reason connects.
# [[Language choice|Choose the tone]]: Rewrite three too-direct disagreement sentences so they fit a respectful classroom discussion and explain the effect.
# [[Grammar transfer|Report the meeting]]: Turn a short direct conversation into a report using one passive, one reported statement, one reported question and one reported command.
# [[Listening strategy|Strategy reflection]]: Explain which listening signals helped you most and why they reduced the need to understand every word.
# [[Compromise task|Find common ground]]: Given three different fictional opinions, propose a compromise and justify why each speaker could accept part of it.
# [[Feedback revision|Use feedback]]: Improve a first draft after one specific feedback comment and mark exactly what you changed.

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= Lernnachweis =

For a successful learning record, you should be able to:

# follow the main line of a short multi-speaker discussion
# identify agreement, disagreement and reasons
# react politely to another opinion
# ask for clarification or a reason
# support your own position with reasons
# reach or explain a compromise
# use the passive in a meaningful context
# report statements, questions and commands
# revise your work after feedback
# show that your English is understandable and appropriately accurate

A possible learning record is a short written discussion report plus a live or privately recorded voluntary speaking task. No public upload is required.

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= OERs zum Thema =

<iframe> https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion </iframe>

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= Verknüpfte Lernbereiche =

{| align=center
{{:D-Tab}}
'''[[Englisch]]'''
# [[Hörverstehen]]
# [[Leseverstehen]]
# [[Sprechen]]
# [[Schreiben]]
# [[Sprachmittlung]]
# [[Wortschatz]]
# [[Aussprache]]
# [[Passive voice]]
# [[Reported speech]]
# [[Diskussion]]
|}

[[Kategorie:Englisch]]
[[Kategorie:Klasse 8]]
[[Kategorie:Baden-Württemberg]]
[[Kategorie:M-Niveau]]
[[Kategorie:Hörverstehen]]
[[Kategorie:Sprechen]]
[[Kategorie:Kommunikation]]
[[Kategorie:Grammatik Englisch]]

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= aiMOOC-Projekte =
[[Kategorie:AI_MOOC]] [[Kategorie:GPT aiMOOC]]
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